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Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51469
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Hello everybody,
I just found this forum because it was suggested to me by Mr Rhude (user thompsonboat). Many thanks for that! The reason why I'm here is, that I really try to identify my "new" boat. But let me say some words about me first. My name is Sebastian, I am 34 years old and come from the north of Germany (so please do not be too critical about my English). Some weeks ago I bought a nice motorboat but I don't know who was the manufacturer, I even can't find anything about it in the documents (there it says: manufacturer unknown). But I just don't want to write about the boat, I will also show it to you. Some of the pictures were taken before I started to restore it this weekend and some while I was taking everything out that was rotten. You won't believe it but one of the former owners filled the hollow spaces of the bottom with installation / construction foam and then put a wooden floor over it. Everything got wet and became turf... They also seemed to have stiffen the transom with a cutting board. When filling the hollow spaces they also blocked the drain valve and the wooden panel inside the transom turned into turf as well. So I had to open the transom and will have to rebuild it. I also took a look in the fiberclassic library as well and found the "Winner Tiki", this boat looks like the "big sister" to my one. It is a little bit too long, my boat is only around 13 ft. long. I really would appreciate your help, best regards, Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51470
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You will find more pictures in my profil, I was not able to put more than one picture in my posting
 Have a nice day! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51477
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Welcome Sebastion, glad to have you join us. Congrats on the "new" boat, and good for you for digging right into the restoration/renovation! I checked out your other pics, looks like you had quite a soggy mess on your hands there.
You can post multiple pics by posting with one, then hit the "edit" button and post another. This can be repeated as many times as you would like. Hope you keep us posted on your progress, and I feel sure someone will be able to help identify your boat soon.  |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51480
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Hi Mark,
thank you for your assistance with the pictures! I have change it and now everyone can see the pictures in my posting. Of course I will post my restoration progress here in the forum! I did a lot of sanding last week  Have a nice day! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51482
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Welcome aboard Sebastian!
I hope someone here may be able to help with identifying your boat. Andreas |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51483
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Sebastian, good find. Welcome to the community. All the information you could possibly want is right here at your fingertips. The pictures tell a lot. I like the setup on your trailer for protecting the motor lower unit.
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51494
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Thank you all for the warm welcome
 I tried to take some pictures from the bow of my boat. It is a little difficult, because it's dark outside when I go to work in the morning and dark again when I come back home.  But I think the pictures might help to identify my boat. So if you have any idea, please don't hesitate to tell me  Have a nice day, Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51498
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Welcome to the forum Sabastian!
It sure looks like a Winner. Here is link from the iboats forum, perhaps you've seen this Tiki already: forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=164481 Dean |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51510
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Welcome aboard. Looks like you been busy there.
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51543
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Yes, there is a lot of work to do on this boat. But I like it, it's a nice project for wintertime.
And I'm very happy to have my garage for that renovation. I wonder, if I will ever have my car in there. For the last five years, when we did the renovation of our house, the garage was used as storage room for all our construction material and tools. In the autumn this year, I cleared up the garage to have my car in there in wintertime, but than this boat appeared  So there will be another winter of ice-scraping on the front window of my car. I'm glad, that my wife is so patient with me This weekend I will try to start rebuilding the transom, if there is a little time between baking christmas-cookies, having friends around for a little BBQ and all the other things my family wants to do on weekend. If I can manage it, I will surely post some pictures here. At the moment, we are discussing what color fits best to the boat. My four year old son wants it red, like a firefighter-boat. To be honest, I'm not sure... What color would be typical for the 60's or 70's? Light blue? Light green, like mint? Or simply white? Exactly for this question it would be great to know which boat I have, so that I can find a color that is "historically correct". Anyway, I'm sure, you and I will solve this riddle Have a nice day! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51548
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Having an understanding spouse certainly makes a world of difference, I often volunteer to scrape her windows and start the car to warm up to help smooth things over.
(There seems to always be one boat project or another in the garage during the winter months!)While we're waiting on boat ID info, you may like to look through the gallery to get ideas on colors.... www.fiberglassics.com/gallery.html Some beautiful projects done by other members here, some are very creative and some follow original guidelines faithfully. Finding time and resources ($) to keep the project going during the holidays is a problem many of us have to deal with, I'm currently operating in "stealth mode" myself! |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51563
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Just curious why you decided to cut the outer skin of the boat? This will be bit of a structural engineering situation when it's time to rebuild the transom. Typically you would remove the top cap of the boat or cut the gunwales in front of the splashwell to get to the transom and leave the outer skin intact. Not saying it can't and hasn't been done this way before, just makes it harder to ensure the structural integrity of the boat has not been compromised. The hull is now not a one piece molded constructed piece. Layering and blending the glass on the outside will take some effort.
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51564
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The only number on the boat is stamped into the gelcoat on the port side of the transom:
"PA / 35". I have no idea what this could mean Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51565
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Hi Flamingo
I know, that it is not the perfect way to rebuilt the transom, but the transom was repaired by somebody before, who did a really bad job  So this was the only way and I will have to rebuild the transom completely. Wish me luck Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51576
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Looks like a fun project
And, Don't apologize for your english- It's quite good- viel besser als mein Deutscher ist. That transom repair won't be too bad- It looks like a flat one, so rebuilding the outer skin won't be too tough at all. As for color- You can go as wild as you want- Though there were some more 'common' colors in that era. Blue, Mint greens, and yellow/oranges seem to have been popular at the time. But- Do it how YOU want it... I'm looking forward to seeing this progress. -Andrew |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51641
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Morning Sebastian,
Don't sweat the lack of proper English here. Most of us were born and raised int he States and still don't know or use it. Welcome to the site. From reading your posts, I see that boating all around the world requires the same things - a garage for winter work and a very understanding wife. The guys here on this site are geniuses and seem to know a lot about buidling, fixing and generally keeping our boats afloat. I really like your boat, too. Great find! |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51665
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Hi Sebastian,
Here is some catalog information on your boat. The first is from the 1969 catalog. Notice that the length is gunwale length. The centerline length is 13'9". The next two scans are from the 1970 and 1971 catalogs. I hope that this information will help. Lee Wangstad 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #51741
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Hey Lee and all you other fabulous guys
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! This is all I can say! I'm really happy! Now my boat has a history and a name! There is a "Winner Piranha 2" in my garage! Now it is not an "unknown" boat anymore! Thanks to all of you again! It is a great experience that there are experts on the "other side of the world", that care for my problems and are taking their time to answer all my questions! I surely will post my restoration here in this forum and I'm sure that there will be more than one question that I will ask... Now the weekend is nearly over and there was no time to work on the boat, but I hope I will have some time during next week and next weekend. I'll keep you informed Have a nice day!!! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52127
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The first layer of wood and fiberglass are placed. The new transom is "growing"
Tomorrow I will built in the next layer. Finally there will be four layers of wood and fiberglass. I worked with fiberglass and epoxy for the first time and I must say, I'm very pleased with my work! Have a nice day! Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52465
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The basic construction of the transom is finished, four layers of wood and fiberglass are now in the boat. There will be a wooden strip on top of the transom to have a perfect edge....
Help, my english is not good enough to explain want I want to say, I'll better show you pictures...  Tomorrow I will finish the last layers of fiberglass on the inside and outside of the transom. I'll will keep you informed Have a nice day!Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52471
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No worries Sebastian, we're following your English just fine! I believe you are referring to a "cap" on the transom? Looking great buddy, keep the pics and progress reports coming please.
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52568
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The evening is gone and it was quite successful!
The transom is covered with three more layers of fiberglass, I think there have to be two layers more, to have a plane transom again. But I will not conceal that I have totally miscalculated with my amount of resin. 3 pounds resin are gone and I must buy more resin tomorrow  Unfortunately no pictures today, my wife has a christmas staff party in here company and left home with our camera So I will show you some pictures later... Have a nice day! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52569
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Your work looks fantastic Sebastian.
I think you should ask Santa for another camera this Christmas. Then the photo updates will not be delayed. |
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Great to be on board.
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52625
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Sebastian wrote:
I can totally relate to that! I think I'm on my 7th or 8th gallon on my project, and not done yet! (I anticipated using 3 or 4.) There is no teacher like experience, we learn as we go. |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52667
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Now here are two new pictures
At the moment I have to wait for new resin. I hope it will arrive before Christmas, so I can continue my restoration after the Christmas holidays. By the way, it's always good to have an educated wife... She told me, that kilogram and pound are not the same  I wrote, that I used 3 pounds resin, but it was 3 kilogram, so nearly 6.6 pounds! So I learned something new again Have a nice day and happy Christmas holidays!!! Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 10 months ago #52671
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The boat is looking awesome,now where are the pictures of the office party?? LOL...
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 9 months ago #54831
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Happy new year everybody!!!
I'm back again And I was not lazy during the last month... The transom is now ready, soft and clean like the skin of a new born baby It was a lot of work, and right now I really don't want to use my sander anymore. How here are some brand new pictures! Have a nice day! Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 9 months ago #54833
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Looks good Sebastian, nice work.
I understand completely! |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 8 months ago #55395
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The last week we had temperatures around 11ºF!!! And the forecast for the next two weeks is the same
So working on the boat is nearly impossible But I do my very best! I took the boat from the trailer and flipped it. Right now the complete hull is sanded and tomorrow I will flip it again and start preparing the new floor. I will post some new pictures this weekend. I hope the temperatures will rise soon, so I can start laminating the floor. Of course I could heat my garage, but at the moment the temperatures are far to low, the heating will be too expensive to reach a proper temperature for laminating. So I have to wait... Have a nice day! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 8 months ago #55399
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Really good thread, you are one busy guy.
Stay warm. Cal 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 8 months ago #55456
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Baby it's cold outside
But it was a beautiful winter-day with my son! We prepared most of the plywood for the floor and some other parts, e.g. a little box for the switch panel. And our seats arrived. I found them in the netherlands and I like the colors very much. Oh, I forgot to tell you, that the boat will be "firefighter-red", so my little son won his battle Now here are todays pictures! Have a nice day! Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 8 months ago #55679
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I just found the perfect switch-panel for my boat!
Very cool vintage-look and the perfect color for my project. I love it  Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 8 months ago #56295
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Now another weekend is over and I think, I did quite well!
Saturday night was my night  My wife was tired and went to bed very early and I decided to be a good husband and not going to disturb her by snoring next to her... So I went into my garage! It was a long and successful night, now my winner has a new floor and all the lamination work is done. The bilge was painted twice before I laminated the new floor over it. The new floor has four water-save hatches, so if there will be water or moisture in the bilge, it will be no problem to remove it. Next step is sanding the laminated floor, before painting it with anti-slip-deckspaint. I'll keep you informed Have a nice day, Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57743
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Sorry boys for being so slow
But there are a lot of other things to do at the moment, so the progress on the boat is not as fast as it could be. Status quo: The complete inside of the boat is laminated and painted twice with gray bilge-paint. No pictures from this part, because I was too fast flipping the boat, I forgot to take pictures from the inside, sorry! Then the hull was finally filled and sanded. At the moment the hull is painted the first time with a 2 component paint (Polyurethan). Today I will apply the second layer. To be continued... Sebastian 
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57750
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You do wonderful work my friend. Don't worry about being slow. Compared to me you are fast. My latest has been in the works for 4 years. Anyone would be proud to own such a boat.
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57780
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Sebastian,
Your project is going well... and as Robert says, you are making great progress! I really like the orange color. How did you apply the paint? Dean |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57788
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Hi Dean,
I use a roller (I don't know, if this is the correct word, but I'm sure, you know what I mean ) to apply the paint and a brush to make a perfect finish without bubbles. It works very well.Your right, the color looks a little bit orange on the picture, but like my four-year-old son would say, it is "firefighter-car-red" Today I applied the last layer paint on the hull, I will take some pictures later. Have a nice day! Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57793
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It looks excellent so far Sebastian, great job! I'm going to be attempting the "roll and tip" method on mine soon as well. Did you have someone helping, or do it yourself? (Roll a section then come back and tip it with the brush?)
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57800
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Hi Mark,
I see, it's called "roll and tip method" in english With my paint this method works perfectly! I did the painting alone. As you guessed, I rolled a section and then tipped it softly with the brush. But I think, very important for a good result is the temperature. At the moment we have temperatures here in Germany that are on the lower edge of the working-temperature of my paint. That means, that the reaction of the two components is quite slow and I have enough time for both working-steps (rolling and tipping). I guess in the summertime with high temperatures, you need help by a another person, tipping right beside you. Phew, I hope you understood everything. But this forum is always a good english-lesson for me Sebastian |
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Re:Is this a "Winner"? 13 years 7 months ago #57813
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Yeah, this color rocks
I really like it!!! Thanks to my little son, who really forced me to paint the boat in "firefighter-red-color". Here are some brand-new pictures. Have a nice day, Sebastian 
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