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Help with 58 johson water pump 13 years 8 months ago #13997

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okay,i think my water pump is not working i have no water shooting out from back when i start this engine today,What do i need to fix it?where do i get the parts to fix it?how easy is it to fix the water pump?where do i start?thanks
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Re:Help with 58 johson water pump 13 years 8 months ago #14006

First, lower unit isn't deep enough. Waterpump is at the bulge and must be submerged to prime - they're not self priming.

Start by removing the small 2-inch long cover on the side of the upper leg. That will reveal the shift disconnect coupling. Remove the BOTTOM bolt from the coupling.

Remove the four small bolts from the underside of the bulge and the one larger bolt at the rear of the motor leg to drop the lower unit.

Set the lower unit skeg in a vice with wood jaw protectors. You can now see the waterpump housing on top of the lower unit housing. Held on by three screws. Remove them (carefully, as they may be corroded in place). Remove the o-ring at the top of the driveshaft (should be in the groove at the top.) Lift the housing off. Impeller may, or may not come off with the housing. Take care not to lose the impeller key - may still be in the driveshaft.

Clean up the base plate and housing of any hard water scale or corrosion. Install new impeller over the driveshaft, taking care to align the drive key/pin. Wet the inside of the pump housing with some Windex, or even plain soapy water. Slide the housing back over the shaft, rotating the driveshaft CLOCKWISE as you push it down over the impeller. Use some Never Seize (or a bit of grease) on the pump housing screws and re-install them.

Install a new o-ring in the top of the driveshaft groove. Generously grease the driveshaft splines. Install the lower unit back onto the mid-section, taking care to align the driveshaft into the crankshaft, and to make sure the water pump tube aligns into the grommet on the pump housing.

Reinstall ONE of the lower unit bolts. Now is the time to install the shift coupling bolt. The groove in the shift rod MUST align in the hole of the shift coupling or you will strip the threads off the bolt. Needle nose pliers and some patience may be required. You only use one bolt on the unit as more than likely you may drop the coupling bolt and you'll need to drop the unit again to get it out. ;)

Once coupling is correctly installed (test shift for forward, neutral and reverse) then install the remaining bolts and the shift coupling cover.

Test in your bucket with the water level ABOVE the bulge where the pump is located...

Good luck!
- Scott

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Re:Help with 58 johson water pump 13 years 7 months ago #14008

Before you go into the water pump, I would stick the engine into another bucket such as a trash can or something where you can get the static water level above the pump. You may have an airbound pump the way you are currently trying to test. Am betting it will pick up water, however......now that you have run the engine this way you may have already damaged the impeller blades and the previous post should be followed in order to inspect and replace as necessary. One thing I would add to that post is that if either the lower plate or the top of the impeller housing is grooved I would replace the complete pump assembly. Damage like that allows less than full pressure and volume to the engine. That is a beautiful engine from the looks of it!

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Re:Help with 58 johson water pump 13 years 7 months ago #14009

If Commander doesn't know when the motor last had the impeller done, it should be done BEFORE running the motor - last thing we need is bits of a dry-rotted impeller getting blown up into the powerhead... Change it out and fuhgeddaboudit...

FYI - the OEM part number for that impeller is 378891, superceded to 775521. Sierra (NAPA) part number is 18-3006. Should be readily available.
- Scott

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Re:Help with 58 johson water pump 13 years 7 months ago #14011

Take those numbers to a NAPA Auto parts store and they can order it for you. Most of the time they get it over night if they have it in the warehouse.
Mike aka pathfinderz1

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