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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105599

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Andrew, Keep us posted on this steering wheel rebuild. I've tossed some over the years because I thought they were too far gone to fix up. Curious about the two part putty, is it hard to form up once it sets or do you have to shape it pretty close to done before it sets up. Is it sandable etc?

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105601

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63 Sabre wrote:

Andrew, Keep us posted on this steering wheel rebuild. I've tossed some over the years because I thought they were too far gone to fix up. Curious about the two part putty, is it hard to form up once it sets or do you have to shape it pretty close to done before it sets up. Is it sandable etc?


The putty works great. Mixes easy and is firm enough to pack into any crack and hold its shape. You have nearly 30 minutes of working time after mixed. Sands smooth, and takes primer really well.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105602

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Sanded the putty smooth...










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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105609

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Who wudda thunk! Geesh never to old to learn something new (to me).
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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105630

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63 Sabre wrote:

Who wudda thunk! Geesh never to old to learn something new (to me).
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Tell me about it, you guys have taught me a ton! This project has a little from a hundred different posts and suggestions in it somewhere.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105633

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After sanding the putty smooth and priming with a polyester primer (my new fav), I had to recreate the grooves in the top half of the wheel. I ended up using a copping saw blade and drug it backwards to put the grooves back. Then wet sanded, painted, and several coats of clear.





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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105639

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Looks great. You really have some talent!

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Great to be on board.
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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105641

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Shelby18 wrote:

Looks great. You really have some talent!


No talent, just good help and stubborn determination! Haha

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105664

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105666

Really came out great, just shows everything has a second chance

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105687

Absolutely awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105740

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I'm happy with the way it turned out. Personally, I love the gold accent...
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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105747

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That's crazy awesome! Nice job.
-Brian

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105764

That boat should be at tomorrowland @ disney

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 8 months ago #105788

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And I could be Goofy sanding and fixing it up!

Thanks for all kind words, I love this old Deluxe!

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107844

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Update: It's not a hotrod unless it has dual exhaust!



















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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107856

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OK, Andrew...I've spotted a lot of things that are NOT stock. The exhaust pipes will have to go, same with the gauges and a few other things. However, I've decided to give you a break and take a ride before you make the necessary changes. I'll bring Dos Equis, shrimp and cocktail sauce. Try to line-up a couple women of questionable character...no fat chicks!

(Better double-up the hose clamps on the exhaust system. That's a "no payout" if the boat sinks and Carla finds out.)

By the way, the boat looks so good, I've decided to raise the price. Another $1,000 should do it. Fedex me a check.

What's happening with the P/S running light lenses?

Your Idol,

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107862

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Here Jan! Definitely a lot of "non stock" in this old girl! About $8000 worth! Haha

Still working on the lenses. The green has been nearly impossible for some reason. I've thrown 10 in the garbage and sold 3 so far. I've got you and 3 more wanting them. I've switched resin, to something I'm very allergic too, and have to be careful when using it. Hoping for better results soon

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107888

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Update: I pulled the windshield out of hiding, washed it, painted the "feet" and installed...













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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107927

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She's really looking sharp Andrew, getting close to re-launch!?

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MarkS wrote:

She's really looking sharp Andrew, getting close to re-launch!?


Oh yeah, she got her bottom wet for the first time in nearly 20 years.


I also have a few videos

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107981

Looking great!

Sounds even better!

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107994

and how did you finish that windshield? ron

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107997

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and how did you finish that windshield? ron


I neglected to take pictures of all I did. I just disassembled everything, cleaned and painted the "feet" where it bolts to the hull. I found a weather stripping gasket that I was able to retrofit under the windshield.
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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #107999

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:ohmy: Oh my god that thing is incredible! Good Work, she looks better than new, and I love the seat pattern as well!

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-Brian

Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108006

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THANKS for the ride-along Andrew, just made my day!

You should be very proud, you've done an excellent job bringing this old girl back to life my friend. ;)

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108016

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Thank you all very much! I still have several weeks of work to do. Engine covers, rear seats, gel coat on the deck, etc. More pictures coming soon...
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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108036

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NJTriton wrote:

:ohmy: Oh my god that thing is incredible! Good Work, she looks better than new, and I love the seat pattern as well!


You wouldn't believe where those seat covers come from! Lowes home improvement... Large outdoor furniture cushions. They matched the boat and fit perfectly. The best part... $35 per seat.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108078

Andrew, OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's so cool about the seat covers too!!!!!

Bob

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108088

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I love that aircraft or classic sports car layout or the gauges. Looks like my Jaguar. I was planning on doing something as close to that as I can on the Chrysler.
Mark

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108090

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I think you said something about advance in the video. You are running an all mechanical distributor right? Since boat motors are under 100% load, never coasting there is no need (or want) of vacuum advance. You have to be careful with total advance. WOT detonation is a killer. But you knew all that right? :unsure:
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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108094

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Awww Man - I just Sold My DUEL DELUXE OMC - This Makes Me miss it.... Cheers

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108102

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L98TPI wrote:

I think you said something about advance in the video. You are running an all mechanical distributor right? Since boat motors are under 100% load, never coasting there is no need (or want) of vacuum advance. You have to be careful with total advance. WOT detonation is a killer. But you knew all that right? :unsure:
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Thanks for the post and advice! I have a marine Prestolite distributor. I intentionally set the timing high when I had the quadrajet on the engine. After I installed the new Edelbrock I failed to re-set it.
Here is a video of the engine running after final adjustments...



You can HEAR the lick of the cam a lot better. Plus, the CDI electronics shift assist module is very sensitive to ignition timing. With the timing high, it would shut down the engine when activated. Now it works properly, stumbling the engine.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108103

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59G3 wrote:

Awww Man - I just Sold My DUEL DELUXE OMC - This Makes Me miss it.... Cheers


Sold it! Those Duel Deluxe's are super rare. Nautilus Restorations has one that he has been working on for somebody.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108170

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Andrew:

Your restoration is fabulous! Absolutely top notch work. (Want a job?)
I really enjoyed the videos...keep them coming. Now we need to see speed trials and handling filmed from another boat. Got a name for her yet?

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108187

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Nautilus wrote:

Andrew:

Your restoration is fabulous! Absolutely top notch work. (Want a job?)
I really enjoyed the videos...keep them coming. Now we need to see speed trials and handling filmed from another boat. Got a name for her yet?

Jan


Holy Cow, that's a huge compliment Jan, you are the master builder! I've got more sea trials to get behind me and correct the little things I'm sure that will crop up. More videos are definitely coming. I need a steeper prop to really see what she can do. The 19 pitch is like riding around in 1st gear!

As far as names go, I'm stuck... Give some ideas. She is a classic lady that can rock your world, when she wants too! haha

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108189

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With that engine and considering the styling, how about "Retro-rocket." As for pitch, I would guess that you need less, not more. What is your WOT RPM? Try to shoot for about 4,600-4,800.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108191

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Tri-Me, Tripple Threat as in ripple.

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Re:1964 Johnson Deluxe Resto-Mod 3 years 6 months ago #108193

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Nautilus wrote:

With that engine and considering the styling, how about "Retro-rocket." As for pitch, I would guess that you need less, not more. What is your WOT RPM? Try to shoot for about 4,600-4,800.


I haven't maxed it out yet. On the first sea trial I hit 3000 before getting to half throttle. Had a small oil leak so I backed off and headed back to the dock after about 30 minutes of slow cruising. Plus, my timing was too high. Great name suggestion too!

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The engine sounds like it has a performance cam. If so, you'll need to advance the spark. You'll have to experiment with the timing. I generally loosen the distributor just enough to be able to turn it and then take the boat up to about 3,500 under load. Adjust the timing by maxing out the tach. (You probably already know all this.) After that, see what she's got in the way of max RPMs while underway, being careful not to exceed 5,000 RPMs. Too high, add pitch/too low, less pitch.

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